Comments on: American Companies Don’t Feel Welcome in China anymore? http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/2010/03/american-companies-dont-feel-welcome-in-china-anymore.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=american-companies-dont-feel-welcome-in-china-anymore Its not always where you are, but where you want to go, and getting there. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mike http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/2010/03/american-companies-dont-feel-welcome-in-china-anymore.html/comment-page-1#comment-6991 mike Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:00:59 +0000 http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/?p=1710#comment-6991 of course this is only part of the differences in culture Dave, we can only imagine all the details and other pieces.....aiya! but your chart is hilarious! I like the box that shows: (USA) Guilt-driven - nobody knows I did something wrong, but I still feel bad. (China) Shame-driven - nobody knows I did something wrong, so NO PROBLEM.... haha. not that simple, but I have to agree here for the most general part of course this is only part of the differences in culture Dave, we can only imagine all the details and other pieces…..aiya!

but your chart is hilarious! I like the box that shows:

(USA) Guilt-driven – nobody knows I did something wrong, but I still feel bad.

(China) Shame-driven – nobody knows I did something wrong, so NO PROBLEM….

haha. not that simple, but I have to agree here for the most general part

]]> By: David Ho http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/2010/03/american-companies-dont-feel-welcome-in-china-anymore.html/comment-page-1#comment-6989 David Ho Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:41:58 +0000 http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/?p=1710#comment-6989 Check this chart: http://www.doceo.co.uk/background/shame_guilt.htm Check this chart: http://www.doceo.co.uk/background/shame_guilt.htm

]]> By: David Ho http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/2010/03/american-companies-dont-feel-welcome-in-china-anymore.html/comment-page-1#comment-6986 David Ho Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:29:47 +0000 http://blog.michaelmichelini.com/?p=1710#comment-6986 Digging into the roots of the desparity of these behaviors and how they became acceptable in there respective cultures you may find it useful to investigate the difference between a shame based culture and a guilt driven one. Shame is a violation of cultural or social values while guilt feelings arise from violations of one's internal values. I believe the consequences of admittence to wrongdoing are genuinely of much greater significance in the eastern world. Everyone around you thinking poorly of you can destroy your reputation internally and externally - it can literally ruin your life. On the other side of the world we Americans enjoy a greater degree of freedom from the weight of shame. We aren't raised to care so much about what others think - our values are our own to define and live up to or fail at achieving. Admitting a mistake to others is much easier. This is only a piece - I'm sure we both acknowledge its a web of factors at play - but perhaps this will shed a little light. Digging into the roots of the desparity of these behaviors and how they became acceptable in there respective cultures you may find it useful to investigate the difference between a shame based culture and a guilt driven one. Shame is a violation of cultural or social values while guilt feelings arise from violations of one’s internal values. I believe the consequences of admittence to wrongdoing are genuinely of much greater significance in the eastern world. Everyone around you thinking poorly of you can destroy your reputation internally and externally – it can literally ruin your life. On the other side of the world we Americans enjoy a greater degree of freedom from the weight of shame. We aren’t raised to care so much about what others think – our values are our own to define and live up to or fail at achieving. Admitting a mistake to others is much easier.
This is only a piece – I’m sure we both acknowledge its a web of factors at play – but perhaps this will shed a little light.

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